Took me too long...
Posted by BTsume | Labels: 5CC, Magic, The Gathering, Type 2 | Posted On Thursday, August 20, 2009 at 2:19 AM
Well, I guess I've dodged a new topic long enough, now, eh?
To start off with, GGs did a wonderful job of bringing us about ten tournaments from GenCon, and to them, I and say thanks. I know I, for one, was zombied out for hours while my woman yelled at me for "still watching Magic". Guess I can't really blame her. I never thought so many people played Stax/Shops in Vintage/Legacy...it's kinda' redonkulous. Maybe I'd still be the Counter/Top/Goyf dude (see the Japanese vintage tourneys put up by T2MTGume), course, I like honest decks...
Moving on from eternal formats, GGs gave a good selection of Standard and Block, even showing Gerry T, one of my regular reads, in action. If I remember right he won his match 2-0 vs Jund while piloting 5CC in Block...I could be making it up though...anyway. On block, I wish I could play Japanese G/W...nuff said? I mean, Thornlings, Angels, Sleges, and "good stuff" is fine by me and I might play it in standard if G/B just wasn't so darn pretty...
Now, standard. Well, I plan on trying my luck at not only the StarCity 5K in Dallas next weekend, but also the PTQ the following day. Should make for an interesting weekend. I'm wondering if 5CC is really the top deck, though. I mean, I'm sure everyone is going to be running with it, and I'm sure that the top echelon of players will pilot it all the way to the Top 8, but it just seems that "so and so stomps 5CC" and "this wrecks CIPT ((CIBFT??)) land decks". Well, if so many people can beat it with sure a wide variety of decks, why doesn't it die like, say, Scarecrows...I guess I shouldn't bite the hands that feeds me, but I'm just making some observations.So, while I'm making observations, why not some decklists?
2 Ethersworn Canonist
2 Cryptic Command
3 Path to Exile
4 Pollen Lullaby
4 Open the Vaults
4 Time Warp
4 Elsewhere Flask
4 Fieldmist Borderpost
4 Howling Mine
3 Kaleidostone
4 Mistvein Borderpost
3 Time Sieve
2 Jace Beleren
2 Tezzeret the Seeker
7 Island
3 Mystic Gate
3 Plains
3 Swamp
61 cards
Sideboard:
3 Burrenton Forge-Tender
2 Ethersworn Canonist
2 Vedalken Outlander
1 Cryptic Command
4 Negate
3 Silence
To start off with, GGs did a wonderful job of bringing us about ten tournaments from GenCon, and to them, I and say thanks. I know I, for one, was zombied out for hours while my woman yelled at me for "still watching Magic". Guess I can't really blame her. I never thought so many people played Stax/Shops in Vintage/Legacy...it's kinda' redonkulous. Maybe I'd still be the Counter/Top/Goyf dude (see the Japanese vintage tourneys put up by T2MTGume), course, I like honest decks...
Moving on from eternal formats, GGs gave a good selection of Standard and Block, even showing Gerry T, one of my regular reads, in action. If I remember right he won his match 2-0 vs Jund while piloting 5CC in Block...I could be making it up though...anyway. On block, I wish I could play Japanese G/W...nuff said? I mean, Thornlings, Angels, Sleges, and "good stuff" is fine by me and I might play it in standard if G/B just wasn't so darn pretty...
Now, standard. Well, I plan on trying my luck at not only the StarCity 5K in Dallas next weekend, but also the PTQ the following day. Should make for an interesting weekend. I'm wondering if 5CC is really the top deck, though. I mean, I'm sure everyone is going to be running with it, and I'm sure that the top echelon of players will pilot it all the way to the Top 8, but it just seems that "so and so stomps 5CC" and "this wrecks CIPT ((CIBFT??)) land decks". Well, if so many people can beat it with sure a wide variety of decks, why doesn't it die like, say, Scarecrows...I guess I shouldn't bite the hands that feeds me, but I'm just making some observations.So, while I'm making observations, why not some decklists?
Time Sieve Combo by Tobias Gräfensteiner; 4th German Nationals
2 Ethersworn Canonist
2 Cryptic Command
3 Path to Exile
4 Pollen Lullaby
4 Open the Vaults
4 Time Warp
4 Elsewhere Flask
4 Fieldmist Borderpost
4 Howling Mine
3 Kaleidostone
4 Mistvein Borderpost
3 Time Sieve
2 Jace Beleren
2 Tezzeret the Seeker
7 Island
3 Mystic Gate
3 Plains
3 Swamp
61 cards
Sideboard:
3 Burrenton Forge-Tender
2 Ethersworn Canonist
2 Vedalken Outlander
1 Cryptic Command
4 Negate
3 Silence
Time Seive, as everyone who's played against it before, will induce insta-vomiting from many different decks, including 5CC. I recently played against a list very similar to this one recently at an FMN (which, btw, i will have a full write up about soon), and while I was able to pull out two wins in the swiss, I felt sick and I couldn't imagine how a control player would feel as his lands, precious to him so, let him down. I believe this monster of a combo list, though attackable on it's own level, is so technical it should win by default. Of course, the eight hate cards don't hurt either. Let's move on, as there's little to be said here right now, but more to come on this beast.
Giantbaiting (aka Weekend Warriors) by Ben Rasmussen; PTQ Gen Con Top 8
4 Nettle Sentinel
4 Bramblewood Paragon
4 Wren’s Run Vanquisher
4 Boggart Ram-Gang
4 Bloodbraid Elf
4 Lightning Bolt
4 Flam Javelin
3 Imperious Perfect
3 Giantbaiting
2 Twinblade Slasher
4 Rootbound Crag
4 Fire-lit Thicket
7 Mountain
9 Forest
Sideboard:
4 Volcanic Fallout
4 Snakeform
3-4 Chameleon Colossus
3 Chaotic Backlash or Kitchen Finks
4 Bramblewood Paragon
4 Wren’s Run Vanquisher
4 Boggart Ram-Gang
4 Bloodbraid Elf
4 Lightning Bolt
4 Flam Javelin
3 Imperious Perfect
3 Giantbaiting
2 Twinblade Slasher
4 Rootbound Crag
4 Fire-lit Thicket
7 Mountain
9 Forest
Sideboard:
4 Volcanic Fallout
4 Snakeform
3-4 Chameleon Colossus
3 Chaotic Backlash or Kitchen Finks
Team "I Ain't Gay" did some testing with this list recently, and it kills 5CC probably 90% or more. It's crazy. I was amazed how well the deck beat the new menace, seemingly with any random hand it could draw...With that said, it did loose all the other games we tried it against, specifically against my Rock, and we *may have gotten some 4C Cascade in on the action, but I don't remember. Apparently, thought, Kithkin is a tight match for this deck as well. At least it fist pumps to vivid lands.
Blightning by Antoine Ménard; 2nd French Nationals
4 Anathemancer
4 Demigod of Revenge
4 Figure of Destiny
4 Hellspark Elemental
4 Flame Javelin
4 Lightning Bolt
2 Magma Spray
4 Volcanic Fallout
2 Banefire
4 Blightning
4 Dragonskull Summit
4 Graven Cairns
11 Mountain
4 Savage Lands
1 Swamp
Sideboard:
3 Ashenmoor Gouger
4 Deathmark
3 Firespout
3 Bitterblossom
2 Manabarbs
4 Demigod of Revenge
4 Figure of Destiny
4 Hellspark Elemental
4 Flame Javelin
4 Lightning Bolt
2 Magma Spray
4 Volcanic Fallout
2 Banefire
4 Blightning
4 Dragonskull Summit
4 Graven Cairns
11 Mountain
4 Savage Lands
1 Swamp
Sideboard:
3 Ashenmoor Gouger
4 Deathmark
3 Firespout
3 Bitterblossom
2 Manabarbs
This list is really tight. I see so many four of, I almost want to play it myself. But...you, know,I don't actually remember if Blightning beats 5CC...hmm. Maybe someone can enlightning me. Other than that bad joke, how 'bout them Demigods? Oh yeah, the dude's back, and instant spell removal is truly needed again. Hooray! No more Doomblade though? Boo.
Okay, that was a quick rundown of the decks I *think could be a blowout against 5CC. In the next post, I should respond to stuff I've read this week, as well as *maybe an FMN report...only if you're good.
Until then, keep Rocking.
~BT
((This post was brought to you by very little sleep, 3:16 am, and tracks 4-11 off "Want" by 3Oh!3. Thank you.))
Okay, that was a quick rundown of the decks I *think could be a blowout against 5CC. In the next post, I should respond to stuff I've read this week, as well as *maybe an FMN report...only if you're good.
Until then, keep Rocking.
~BT
((This post was brought to you by very little sleep, 3:16 am, and tracks 4-11 off "Want" by 3Oh!3. Thank you.))
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